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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 9 2014, 05:33 AM (1,253 Views) | |
| Krystal | Jun 9 2014, 05:33 AM Post #1 |
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So as many of you may have heard, two twelve year old girls stabbed a classmate 19 times in order to prove their devotion to the title character of an indie horror PC game, Slender. As per usual with crimes that have media tie-ins, many blame Slender and his creator for 'warping innocent children.' As a fan of the game and someone who uses B-Horror as white noise when I sleep, I find this notion ridiculous as I consider myself pretty fluffy. However, just because a franchise or work failed to turn me into a murderer, I shouldn't automatically reject all notions that it contributes to some criminals. Do you guys think that certain media or literature actually DOES result in the criminal activity of otherwise normal people? Or do you think that people who are predisposed to criminal tendencies are simply drawn to certain entertainment? The thing that gets me about this attack in particular is that at no point in the game does Slender contain violence of any kind, nor does it mention killing in Slendy's name. He never communicates in any way. He's just sort of there. How does a character with no motivations or dialogue become someone in need of sacrifice to little girls? I find the whole story disturbing and so, so sad, but I also (and maybe this is where my macabre comes out) find it deeply intriguing? Thoughts? The story: http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-80392627/ |
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Not necessarily. I do believe, though, that certain parts of our society - such as our level of entertainment - can desensitize us to things like death, murder, rape, etc. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 9 2014, 06:17 AM Post #3 |
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I personally believe it all comes down to the persons state of mind. Because when it comes down to it, I fit the profile of someone who would commit a heinous crime, but I don't. I was severely abused as a child in multiple ways, I was bullied at school and my family, I was in mental hospitals, I suffered another traumatic attack almost 7 years ago, I listen to all forms of Metal, I play violent games, I watch violent and horror movies... and yet I don't go out and preform these acts of violence. Either the kids are messed up in the head, or even scarier there's nothing wrong with them and naturally their cold blooded killers. Personally, I think the reason why the media is attacked and blames is because it's an escape goat and easy to point their finger at the media instead of trying to find out the real reason behind it, and that it's scarier when there isn't anything to blame and when the blame isn't something easy. Also, this hits home with me, since I am also a surviving stab victim. Edited by Saberoph, Jun 9 2014, 06:18 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Jun 9 2014, 06:21 AM Post #4 |
 
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"Movies don't create psychos. Movies just make psychos more creative." I remember going in to work after this happened and another officer brought it up (being that I live in the next city over). I can't say I was totally surprised, but I kind of was. I do agree to an extent that entertainment can desensitize us. I watched horror movies constantly as a child, so blood, gore, mutilation, murder, rape, all of that stuff stopped bothering me much by the time I was in my teen years. Among other factors, I'd list that as a big contributor to me not having much hesitation in taking someone's life if it came down to it. I'd honestly have a bigger reaction killing an animal than killing a human. Call me psychotic or morally disgusting, but that kind of thing just doesn't have as much of an effect on me as it would others. I listen to heavy metal music, watch gory movies everyday, write some of the sickest s*** that I can't post online, see and learn about the baddest stuff people do at work, and I haven't gone off to murder someone yet. So that says something.
Same. Stabbings suck. Edited by Pyrus, Jun 9 2014, 06:38 AM.
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| Hurry My Curry | Jun 9 2014, 06:35 AM Post #5 |
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I myself believe we are influenced by what we see on television and on the internet. As an example (those of you know who have watched Scrubs will know what im talking about), Dr.Cox is always going on these ridiculous rants whenever someone asks him a dumb question. As a result, I have tried and failed to emulate my own sort of tirades in conversations. Now i think the heinous crime the two girls committed is simply an extremity. If you looked at all the homocides committed, i really doubt the motive for many of them would be inspiration from a violent show or internet. |
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| Tonneh | Jun 9 2014, 06:47 AM Post #6 |
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"The bad part of me wanted her to die," Weier told the detective, according to the complaint. "The good part of me wanted her to live." Morgan Geyser, the accused accomplice, was not so conflicted: "It was weird that I didn't feel remorse," she told a detective, the complaint said. She later added that it was "probably wrong." I think that kind of says it all about desensitizing. This is horrible as to what's happened don't get me wrong - but my assumption is that these girls were ill to begin with. I don't really see what the parents could have done to stop it. You either hover over your kids and block every website that isn't educational + cotton wool your kids - or you let them run wild and this is what could potentially happen. Fortunately most of us land in the middle. EDIT: My sympathies to the victims of being stabbed in here. I'm glad you both survived. That is scary s***. Edited by Tonneh, Jun 9 2014, 06:48 AM.
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| Saberoph | Jun 9 2014, 06:56 AM Post #7 |
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The girl that survived in store for years of therapy and I sure hope she handles herself much better than I did and doesn't go through what I went through... it really messes you up. I don't have kids but I have 3 nieces and 3 nephews and until they're between 11-14 I let them play more mature games and watch the more violent movies and can freely browse the web, and so far with my oldest nephew it worked like a charm and he was perfectly find with how I handled it and so was his father. But, I am realistic enough to realize you cannot shelter a child and shut them out of everything, because when they get a chance to go buck wild... they usually do and them some, so I know it's not smart to build a wall between them and the world. I'm only an uncle but over the years I feel like a parent too. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 9 2014, 06:59 AM Post #8 |
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Oh, it's definitely not smart to completely shelter a kid. I knew a girl that was sheltered until the end of high school, and then in college she just went crazy with the sex, parties, alcohol, and self-harm. It wasn't a pretty picture. Can't say I stayed friends with her after that. Sooner or later people have to experience life. How they react to that is what defines them. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 9 2014, 07:05 AM Post #9 |
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I agree 100% with me my parents waited until I was 14 and not a year before. But in todays times it's different and I think depending on how mentally developed the child is depends on the age they need to be before pushed into that world. I've also seen what happens when a child is sheltered until college and goes crazy... she ended up with aids after being sexually assaulted 4 times and is now in a wheelchair from speeding while being intoxicated 3 times the legal limit. But as for the topic, I really hope she's strong enough to get past all of this. |
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Batman Arkham Games Discussion. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8487015/1/ Q&A With Me. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8408853/1/ Dragon Ball Game Talk. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8410747/1/ Dragon Ball Game Talk 2.0 http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8543860/1/ My Broli Idea. http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8716209&t=8374201 Dragon Ball Paramountcy. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8561069/1/ Intellectual savior of the masses.
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| + Pyrus | Jun 9 2014, 07:11 AM Post #10 |
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That's some ridiculous crap right there. Come to think of it, I don't even know if the girl I knew got an STD from college... But yeah, maybe at work I can see if there are any updates regarding this girl from the stabbing. 
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| Jet | Jun 9 2014, 07:56 AM Post #11 |
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I think violence in entertainment may desensitise us to news of murder, deaths, rape etc in real life - particularly when it's involving people we don't know. I browse the Internet all the time, so not a day goes by without reading about an incident where one of the three occurred. However, if any of us actually witnessed it in real life, the fact that we've seen Boromir from Lord of the Rings get killed on the big screen isn't going to change just how frightening it would be to actually see someone killed. Edited by Jet, Jun 9 2014, 08:01 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Jun 9 2014, 08:06 AM Post #12 |
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I may have to disagree with that. I think I've been better off witnessing death because I've seen it so much in movies. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 9 2014, 08:24 AM Post #13 |
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It's as Jet says; we can be de-sensitised to news of murder and the concept of it, but it's a completely different matter witnessing it first-hand. Most people wouldn't react in the way that they believe they would. On the topic of games/shows/media influencing violent behaviour such as the situation referenced in the OP, I can only echo the thoughts that have already been put forward. Such things incite violent actions and behaviour out of those who were already prone to it before playing the game/watching the show. The issue is, a lot of people don't see it like this and, as such, it's become a valid 'excuse' for people to argue that video games influenced their actions. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 10 2014, 12:59 PM Post #14 |
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/ohio-mom-says-daughter-referenced-slender-man-in-knife-attack-b99287217z1-262371681.html This just happened again, by the way. |
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| + Pelador | Jun 10 2014, 01:02 PM Post #15 |
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Yes lets just place all the blame for obvious social failings on a game that no one even talks about anymore. It's not like there are actually more complex issues that need to be looked at. It's clearly all the game's fault. |
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